Comments on: Are “reset” style sheets bad? http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/ Proudly bending beziers since 2006 Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:26:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Pascal http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41863 Pascal Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:07:56 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41863 @Lindsay Holmwood: Indeed -- like you say "it's very much like grasping at straws". @Lindsay Holmwood: Indeed — like you say “it’s very much like grasping at straws”.

]]> By: Lindsay Holmwood http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41862 Lindsay Holmwood Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:51:31 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41862 Latency is really a non-issue. There are probably more important things to optimize than the load latency of a few 4k stylesheets. Most modern web browsers and servers do everything over HTTP keep-alive, so it's not particularly expensive for a client to GET another file. If you're *really* worried about latency, there are various projects around that combine your stylesheets into one big one. Latency is really a non-issue. There are probably more important things to optimize than the load latency of a few 4k stylesheets.

Most modern web browsers and servers do everything over HTTP keep-alive, so it’s not particularly expensive for a client to GET another file.

If you’re *really* worried about latency, there are various projects around that combine your stylesheets into one big one.

]]> By: Thomas Jollans http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41861 Thomas Jollans Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:12:51 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41861 Not to say that reset style sheets are bad, but they're something I'd never use myself—what I want to control, I (re)set myself, when it comes to important aspects of the overall design, I set everything exactly anyway, and the rest the user can chose soi-même, or let the UA do the honours, of course. If I care how exactly lists look, I manually set them without unsetting some margins beforehand, but usually, I just leave the defaults. Not to say that reset style sheets are bad, but they’re something I’d never use myself—what I want to control, I (re)set myself, when it comes to important aspects of the overall design, I set everything exactly anyway, and the rest the user can chose soi-même, or let the UA do the honours, of course. If I care how exactly lists look, I manually set them without unsetting some margins beforehand, but usually, I just leave the defaults.

]]> By: Pascal http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41693 Pascal Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:47:42 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41693 @chesty: "reset" style sheets are CSS files that reset elements defined by user agents (UA), such as a web browser. <abbr>UA</abbr>s will define styling for the basic <abbr>(X)HTML</abbr> elements in differing ways. The idea here is to provide you with a clean slate to work with by setting all of the values back to sensible defaults. Of course "sensible" is the operative word -- it is possible to go somewhat overboard with reset style sheets but in general they can be highly useful. Examples of reset style sheets can be found in the <a href="http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/reset/" title="YUI reset" rel="nofollow"><acronym title="Yahoo! User Interface">YUI</acronym> library</a> and <a href="http://code.google.com/p/blueprintcss/" title="Blueprint at Google Code" rel="nofollow">Google's Blueprint library</a>. @chesty: “reset” style sheets are CSS files that reset elements defined by user agents (UA), such as a web browser. UAs will define styling for the basic (X)HTML elements in differing ways. The idea here is to provide you with a clean slate to work with by setting all of the values back to sensible defaults.

Of course “sensible” is the operative word — it is possible to go somewhat overboard with reset style sheets but in general they can be highly useful. Examples of reset style sheets can be found in the YUI library and Google’s Blueprint library.

]]> By: Jordan Clark http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41661 Jordan Clark Sat, 26 Apr 2008 00:11:39 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41661 Good article. As I basically said on <a href="http://meiert.com/en/blog/20080419/reset-style-sheets-are-bad/#comment-58901" rel="nofollow">Jen's blog</a>, I don't think using a "reset" style sheet is a black-and-white issue; as with most things in web development, it depends on the requirements of the project. Good article. As I basically said on Jen’s blog, I don’t think using a “reset” style sheet is a black-and-white issue; as with most things in web development, it depends on the requirements of the project.

]]> By: chesty http://klepas.org/2008/04/26/are-reset-stylesheets-bad/#comment-41659 chesty Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:39:08 +0000 http://klepas.org/?p=424#comment-41659 The only thing missing from this post is... what's a reset style sheet? The only thing missing from this post is… what’s a reset style sheet?

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